• Posted by Debbie on June 5, 2020 at 8:04 am

    I have 2 parts :

    !st in tthe question that dealt with the information needed to see at patient and it listed patient info, MD order and Oasis info, etc…I selected these because the POC or 485 was not listed and this was marked “incorrect”,,I feel the question is misleading…You have to have an signed Order to see the patient #1 and patient demographics and if an Oasis has not been done then you have no POC or idea of what skills or Dx need to be addressed.

    2cd< The question regarding if all HHA need to adhere to Federal Regulations. Would that not be true if NAHC falls under the Federal catergory?

    Oma replied 2 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Oma

    Member
    June 5, 2020 at 10:31 am

    I agree with you on both fronts. The nurse goes in to do the SOC with the MD order and if the MD is ordering an IV to be done, or wound care, you don’t normally wait for the OASIS to be completed. You do it that visit, and the COPs allow for 5 days to complete the assessment. Therefore to wait for just the OASIS doesn’t seem correct.

    I also agree about the federal regulations because it us under CMS and CMS is federal, regardless of jurisdiction. I posted the same question about the OASIS and some about the LUPAs and the payment change since LUPA thresholds are different now under PDGM and SCIC payments were done away with. Do you remember her going over the 73/74 payment adjustments? I don’t. Honestly I don’t remember much claim information being presented at all.

  • Alice

    Member
    June 5, 2020 at 10:55 am

    I was under the same understanding, you have to have a Physician’ order to start the services, you also need patient information (BP, Ins cards, home structure, ect) and the OASIS. Please explain

    • Petria

      Administrator
      June 7, 2020 at 1:35 am

      Hi Alice, which question are you referring to?

  • Paula

    Member
    June 5, 2020 at 11:36 am

    I agree, on the question what information should a HHA use BEFORE CARE: based on the choices given I answered doctor’s orders and information provided from the patient. Oasis is based during the assessment (SOC) is being conducted. I also agree on the federal regulations.

    I am glad that it was not just me who had the impression that some questioned on the quiz were not discussed in the study guide.

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by  Paula.
  • Vaifoo

    Member
    June 5, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    i agree i got both the answer wrong too. i thought they were right.

  • Petria

    Administrator
    June 7, 2020 at 1:22 am

    Hi Everyone,

    Are you referring to questions in Module #1? Do you remember what the question said?

  • Petria

    Administrator
    June 7, 2020 at 1:32 am

    Hi Oma,

    The 73/74 must have been a glitch, as the question should not have read that way. But like this:

    If a patient’s care needs change substantially during the 60-day episode of care, CMS may change the amount of reimbursement.

    The answer is True.

    • Oma

      Member
      June 7, 2020 at 6:40 pm

      Wasn’t the SCIC payment done away with?

  • Petria

    Administrator
    June 7, 2020 at 1:39 am

    Hi Debbie, which module and question are you referring to? Did the Q&A answer your question?